Unconditional Immortality Or Resurrection Of The Dead
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1. "Now unto the King eternal, immortal" [1 Timothy 1:17].
2. Only God has immortality [1 Timothy 6:16].
3. Christ "abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel" [2 Timothy 1:10].
4. "To them (Christians) that...seek for glory and honor and immortality" [Romans 2:7].
5. "This mortal must put on immortality" [1 Corinthians 15:53] at the resurrection.
6. "This mortal shall have put on immortality" [1 Corinthians 15:54] after the resurrection.
Why are we to "seek for" that which we are born with? Why will we "put on immortality" if the only part of us that will ever be immortal, has been immortal from birth (or before birth)? The fact that a person must "seek for...immortality" and immortality must be "put on" at the resurrection is conclusive proof that a person does not now have it. If Romans 2:7 and 1 Corinthians 15:53 teaches nothing more, it teaches that no part of a person now possess immortality.
There are only two views that are commonly believed about what will happen to mankind after death. [One] That the soul of all will live forever and cannot die, the soul of the lost must exist somewhere for all the lost have eternal life and are not subject to the wages of sin which is death, or [Two] the wages of sin is death and the lost will die, they do not now have eternal life and never will.
1. [One]. The belief that everyone has a soul in them that will live forever and cannot die, therefore, death is not the wages of sin. A person has something in them that cannot die, cannot ever be destroyed, ALL ARE BORN WITH ETERANL LIFE AND CAN NEVER DIE. This view has two major divisions.
o (A) That all mankind has a "soul" that cannot ever die or be destroyed, but for most of mankind God will forever torment this part of a person they call "soul."
o (B) Universalism: that all mankind has a "soul" that cannot ever die or be destroyed, everyone has something in them that will live forever but "it" will be saved. If this "soul" ["it"] is not saved in this lifetime "it" will be saved after death.
2. [Two]. That the wages of sin is death. The lost will die the second death; they will forever be destroyed. Those who do not believe this view gave it the name "annihilation." This name is not in the Bible, but what it means is eternal destruction, nevertheless, I think it best not to call Bible teaching by a name not in the Bible.
o Most Protestant Premillennialists believe the lost will be totally destroyed but there are two Premillennial views on how or where the lost will be destroyed.
1. Many believe that the distortion of the lost will be on this earth and the saved will forever live on this earth; no person will ever be in Heaven. They believe the Valley of Gehenna will be restored and the lost will literally be burn to ashes in it.
2. Some Protestant Premillennialists believe that the saved will be with Christ in Heaven, not on earth after the thousand years; the second death will be the end of the lost, but they are not burned too ashes on this earth.
o But then some Protestant Premillennialists believe the lost cannot die and will be forever tormented by God, which puts them in the camp of those that believe death is not the wages of sin.
1. Some Protestant Premillennialists believe [view one] the wages of sin is eternal life with torment for the soul that cannot die.
2. Many Protestant Premillennialists believe [view two] the wages of sin is death.
- 2010-01-08 13:14:50
Subject: Lacking Credibility
These words straight away show that this is not a work of any seriousness or credibility. William West at this point displays either ignorance or the ability call black, white and vice versa. Most fundamental Bible beleiving Baptists and independednt churches, hold fast the historic, orthdox, Biblical teaching on hell and everlasting punishment for the unrepentent. Its a fact that only a minority of Protestant Premillennialists, such as cults like the Watchtower (Jehovah Witnesses) which deny other key doctrines such as the blood atonement, deity of Jesus, His bodily resurrection and visible return, also deny continued torment of the wicked in eternity, and fly against the face of plain statements of our Lord Jesus and His apostles. According to them, the fate of Hitler is exactly the same as that of princess Diana, it is that of a tadpole eaten by a fish — mere cessation of existence. This is of course exactly what every sinner still unreconciled to God is banking on and hoping for. Sadly for them, it is not true, and when they die and when they find the truth, which is clearly taught in the Scriptures, it will be too late to amend their ways.
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Subject: Eternal Life?
Any rigorous examination of a story demands that we seek all sources for a more complete picture of the subject matter. Failing do so is the sure sign of fear of the unknown. It is this head-in-sand approach to religion that perpetuates misbegotten notions to which many Christians cling so tightly. To this writer, any true researcher must decide whether they are interested in real knowledge or solely desirous of maintaining traditions and a fearful attitude of the unknown.
Divining what Christ and the apostles taught some 2000 years ago requires first, an honest look at tradition and a strict adherence to plucking out the obvious fiction. Secondly, it requires a thorough collecting of all relevant material. Thirdly, the researching should read what other legitimate researchers have to say and lastly digest it all and come to his own conclusions.
Most traditional Christians refuse to do this. William West seems to be part of that group that eschews a fuller view of history in favor of perpetuating the official company line. If he really wanted to know what Christ and his Apostles taught he would have broadened his sources material beyond the bible.